Livestreaming the General Assembly and other Meetings

[BenBurton]

The person who instituted the friendly amendment is going to make a proposal to revoke it. I believe that will appear on these boards Monday-ish.

[Ella Mae]

This isn't an issue of money for me. I trust that everyone knows how to best allocate what you have of course you need to work out your priorities and that's your call too..

This is made more of an issue because people insist that the minutes and archives exist, and they don't. Fibnally we are getting round to the truth and Phil may make this happen.

Why not just run an audio recorder like everyone else does. I don't care who said what — but I do care about what's was said. It doesn't have to be such a freaking big deal! Things that are secret need to have a subject stated. period.

Phil is getting close, and I said it before, let the archive be housed at Cermak if it's too much trouble to get it secured online like ever other organization does.

People who offer to help keep getting run off and then the cry goes out that you don't have enough help to do the mundane tasks. This is all getting so tired. I admire Ella's persistent good cheer, ability to repeat the same thing tirelessly and her unflagging support of you all. It's been 4 months, and major decisions and conflicts have ocurred with no record.

Thanks to Ben we found out that this was a dead issue. That's the problem!

Thank you Mary, for your kind words. Just curious, who is Phil?
And thanks Ben for answering my question. I was at GA tonight and found out more.... I don't have a definite opinion on the livestreaming issue. I can see both sides. But when I don't make it to GA's I often like to watch while I'm occupying my couch.
Treasury is going to try to step up the pace..... we can get a van as soon as a procedure is in place for insurance and gas!
As far as note taking, I have seen someone taking notes at very GA I've been to, and it's usually on a computer. So they are out there somewhere.... it does seem like it would be a simple matter of cutting and pasting to the forum. (But again the reminder: we are all volunteers, no one is a professional at this).

[marymcmahon@clear.net]

Yes we are all volunteer trying to act collectively. Running a digital recorder would be easy and is affordable... they can be transcribed verbatim instead of interpreted. Again I believe they are untapped human resources that can be called to action. They are on the perimeter without an avenue in, the group is very all or nothing at this stage.

[occupiechicago]

can we stop calling it a friendly amendment?

[Lucas V]

It was accepted as friendly according to our current, somewhat bizarre, way of dealing with amendments. See my new post for a process that would have prevented this.

[sheryl]

Who is Phil? Why bother to participate in a discussion if you can't take the time to read what everyone else has to say.

I too am very disappointed that this proposal, with all of it's greytones, has been approved.

[marymcmahon@clear.net]

I support livestreaming ALL GA's. If a person does not want to be seen, cover your face. Simple as that.

This is Phil

[BenBurton]

can we stop calling it a friendly amendment?

I keep thinking about May. What's going to happen when 50,000 people descend on GA? Are 1,000 Chicagoans going to be occupied with stopping 50K people from streaming? Or is this simply an example of the tyranny of the many being used to control a few?

Enforcement of this would be sporadic and selective at best. Most undemocratic and, unfortunately, mostly fascist.

[Ella Mae]

I support livestreaming ALL GA's. If a person does not want to be seen, cover your face. Simple as that.

This is Phil

Thank you Mary.

[Ella Mae]

Who is Phil? Why bother to participate in a discussion if you can't take the time to read what everyone else has to say.

I too am very disappointed that this proposal, with all of it's greytones, has been approved.

I know that I should ignore this, since I don't like to get into personal discussions here, but wow -- have you ever read through something but not retained every single thing? I mean, you really didn't have to insult me.

(And even if I didn't 'take the time' to read the whole discussion, so what? That was so offensive you had to insult me?)