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I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby Tweety » Sun May 27, 2012 11:17 am

Last night, i went to a GA at the lovely horse statue with my best friend Kari. It was her first time at a GA and she was thoroughly disappointed. We agreed that the GA was held in an unfair, facist manor. I'm not tryin to be against you guys 'cause occupy chicago is my life, but seriously, let's change how these GA's work. I think it was rude and not fair to everone there that one boy and an added girl, thought that they ran the whole thing. This is a leaderless movement! I felt as though the "people in charge" were very.. no offense... arrogant? I'm sorry guys, it's not fair that you get to choose who speaks at what times and what sort of things they get to say. I understand it's for organization but honestly, we're people and I'm sure we're able to do this shit on our own! I saw a dude get, not yelled at, but rudely and aggressively talked to, by Captain GA for saying a sentence during question time! I think we should have the GA's in a way that it's just like a big discussion. We join together, anyone can tell the announcements, whoever talks can chose who gets to talk next. Fuck this facistlike, government within this movement. I'm not hatin, I'm just trying to fix what I view as an unfair problem for my comrads.
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby MoshehThezion » Mon May 28, 2012 2:10 am

Equality?????? has nothing to do with letting people speak....
generally... these GA's... are run by those who own the equipment.....

they run the show... because they own the speakers... and microphone....

Those people... have co-opted the entire effort because they have the stuff to run a GA..... nothing more.

I ran for president... and yet... most people... in OWS.. say.. openly... they do not care about solutions... they care about protesting... which is mega-lame.

I ask you... if you want to fight for solutions... then consider these links...



http://www.nycga.net/groups/political-a ... -change-1/

http://www.nycga.net/groups/legal/forum ... seriously/


http://www.nycga.net/groups/alternative ... x-banking/


then... consider helping me take over the government, so I as President can actually change things...
Only a President... or Congress.. can solve things... fix things.....
Protesters cannot change anything... unless they organize and focus on changing the government.

I try very hard to motivate people.... but most... are deluded... and biased.

If you and your girl friend... truly care... then join with me... in trying to truly fix things with a real economic solution plan..... if not... then the whole effort is doomed, because it is run by small minded people who are so biased and obsessed with control that they will not let people like you speak... or anyone that they do not agree with.


I can fix this... with your help.....



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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby Tweety » Mon May 28, 2012 9:30 pm

Mr. Thezion,
Fuck off.
I'm 15 and can't vote. and if i could, I wouldn't, and if i had to, i wouldn't vote for you! Because you've been spamming these boards with your political campaining bullshit and your negative attitude about protesting for as long as I can remember. You're askin for it man.
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby MoshehThezion » Mon May 28, 2012 11:14 pm

Tweety wrote:Mr. Thezion,
Fuck off.
I'm 15 and can't vote. and if i could, I wouldn't, and if i had to, i wouldn't vote for you! Because you've been spamming these boards with your political campaining bullshit and your negative attitude about protesting for as long as I can remember. You're askin for it man.


oh my... ok... so let me ask you... what would you do?
What do you want to do?
How would you fix the world????

And do you not think that it will take people IN GOVERNMENT to make the change???

Ok... you do not like me.... understandable.

For what it is worth.. I am not running for President anymore... but yes I still try and push solutions because if I am not mistaken that is what you claim to want... a way to be set free from the control of Wall street.

Your response... represents the problem...

instead of considering.. and wanting to discuss issues... you tell me to fuck off.

thats cool... it happens a lot... Which I guess is no surprise.

I would suggest that as you get older... maybe you... you... run for office and lead us all to solution... since no one else is worthy of your vote... We (the nation) could all use your help to fix things.
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby Tweety » Tue May 29, 2012 9:51 am

Bro, I'm an anarchist. I don't think that the world could be fixed by the government. I think we need to get rid of the damn government. No one person should have control over any ones life but their own. It's just not fair man. In this world all you have is your mind man, your own mind, your own thoughts, your own opinions. How is it fair that somebody with a "higher power" or "more money" can tell you that your opinions are wrong, that you can't fight for what you believe in. It's called arrogance. If anyone thinks they can control the life of somebody else then they think their mind is better than the other persons. But man in my dimension, my mind is the only one. My mind is full of opinions. And I'm sure yours is too. But at least in my head, everyone has an equal chance and their aint no government to control lives. I'm not a damn animal. So point is man, I will not run for anything. I would never consider that.
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby MoshehThezion » Tue May 29, 2012 8:03 pm

Tweety wrote:Bro, I'm an anarchist. I don't think that the world could be fixed by the government. I think we need to get rid of the damn government. No one person should have control over any ones life but their own. It's just not fair man. In this world all you have is your mind man, your own mind, your own thoughts, your own opinions. How is it fair that somebody with a "higher power" or "more money" can tell you that your opinions are wrong, that you can't fight for what you believe in. It's called arrogance. If anyone thinks they can control the life of somebody else then they think their mind is better than the other persons. But man in my dimension, my mind is the only one. My mind is full of opinions. And I'm sure yours is too. But at least in my head, everyone has an equal chance and their aint no government to control lives. I'm not a damn animal. So point is man, I will not run for anything. I would never consider that.


wow... I like you... your an anarchist... As I have always been... wild... like Conan... ever read Conan novels?
Conan is a true anarchist.... no one rules him, and those who tried... are dead.... cause he killed them with a sword.
The movie... sucked... I'm talking about the books by Robert E Howard.... awesome.

Anyway... yes.. I have always been like you.. still am basically.. but... to get what you want will require the destruction of everything.... because to do it quickly will not be easy... and you have so many morons in the way,.. right... damm fools.. who like being led like fucking sheep...
damm.. and there are so many of them... conformists... who like getting in line ... and like taking orders just because they want to give orders...


Yeah.. I hear ya... I grew up wanting to lead revolution... world wide... to crush the governments and set the people free.... oh yeah... but... even if we did that... would we be free???? eh... no... some other asshole who has the guns would take over.. and kill anyone who argues... thats how it has always been....
The guy with the gun is in charge..... and the only way to get rid of him... is to kill him.
And then another guy shows up... and another... because they are all so fucking stupid and cruel and primitive that you end up having to kill a lot of them, and then... you... have become the guy with the gun.


Yeah... its a problem.


What should interest you... is... FREEDOM... and I am not talking about what we have today.
Today... we do not have freedom... we have Civil Liberties... ever since 1933.

But... before 1933... before 1900.... we had Common Law Freedom.

Under the common law.... we are free to do as we please, and NO ONE.. NO ONE.. NO GOVERNMENT... can impose any rules on us... BECAUSE WE ARE FREE..... FREE AS ESTABLISHED BY THE COMMON LAW.

THAT.. IS WHAT THE COMMON LAW WAS FOR.... TO PROTECT US... from assholes who think they know better and want to control us.... it protected our freedom.

We lost it... in 1938.

And over the last 80 years... they have eroded all sense of freedom away... so that we have none today.


This can be fixed.... but only by taking power.. and being the guy with the gun left standing.

I.. try.. as I am able to solve these problems and restore real freedom... without.. without having to kill a lot of people... cause lets face facts... those moron cops... those Feds... those government idiots... they are just that... Morons.. idiots... THEY DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER.... THEY HAVE ALL BEEN LIED TOO... TRICKED.
IT DOES NO GOOD TO KILL THEM... it does no good to fight them....
The only way to win...
the only way... is to win the argument... to change their minds.... to expand their view..
To show them... what they have lost... THEY LOST FREEDOM... just like you and me.


You.. probubly do not care... but reads this if you do... --> http://mosheh.org/Freedom-and-THE-LAW.html

There are many... you know em... people who want to be in charge... give orders... push others around.
i hate those bastards...

the only thing we can do... is organize... as freedom lovers.. to crush them... and push them down.. so that they cannot rise up and control us again.

If you really give a fuck... about freedom... about being free of others control over you.
then you will take this seriously.. and start reading... to join the fight.

If you cannot do that... then you really do not give a shit, and are just saying what others have taught you.

I ask you... grow some fucking balls.. and join with me to fight for freedom.

I do not have an army.. I have no team.. I have nothing... why???? because I am an anarchist... who wants to crush authority and put it in its place... and if I took over it would be to Rule as a freeman.. and restore true freedom to all the people..... THAT... IS WHY I GET NO SUPPORT.... because I would do what should be done...

If you do not have the balls to help me... as a fellow Anarchist bent on restoring freedom, then maybe I should just give up, because it seems to me as if most... most... actually like their neck collar.

And you... have attacked me like a wild dog trapped in a bear trap.... and when i try to free you by showing you how to get out... you try and bite me.
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby Tweety » Wed May 30, 2012 9:11 am

Alright man, I didn't hate reading what you had to say this time. Until the last part when you're like grow balls join me. I'm an anarchist, and I dont/wont join anybody. I understood what you said and I respect it, I think it's idk... smartish. But again man, I'm gonna do my own thing, but I really appreciate that little lesson. And I'll read them books. :) Peace, love and anarchy!
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby MoshehThezion » Wed May 30, 2012 7:34 pm

Tweety wrote:Alright man, I didn't hate reading what you had to say this time. Until the last part when you're like grow balls join me. I'm an anarchist, and I dont/wont join anybody. I understood what you said and I respect it, I think it's idk... smartish. But again man, I'm gonna do my own thing, but I really appreciate that little lesson. And I'll read them books. :) Peace, love and anarchy!


Ok... but only together can we stand.... divided we fall...

We lost freedom long ago... because the people were divided... and they still are.

I will keep trying.. and perhaps... as you age.. you will think more about organizing and fighting for your freedom and the freedom of others.

I may die tomorrow... and if so.. it will be up to others... like maybe you.. or someone else.

I will keep trying.

(P,S.. you will find a lot of Conan novels ... a lot... the best.. original author.. is Robert E Howard... in fact his books are legendary.. he inspired many modern writers... (which is why so many others have written Conan novels)....
and his greatest character was Conan, because he is everything every young guy wants to be... has the potential to be... he wasnt awesome because he was buff.. he was awesome because he had a mind with no limits, a great sense of honor, and always had the balls to do what needs to get done.)
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Re: I thought this movement was about equality?

Postby Zealwriter » Thu May 31, 2012 10:02 am

It is time to take things to the next level and beginning in Chicago the Occupy Movement can become a World Economic Power! From The Sears Tower, Museums and Art, Film (Batman, Transformers, etc.), Music or Culinary Chicago has a rich History of taking things to the next level from things that have been formerly done; Why not make this the case in the Occupy Movement? :?:

It is time for OWS to due more than march but also become attention getter by setting its participants financially free and in that making them free of Wall Street or any other oppressive entity that takes and refuses to give back. I believe that the Chicago Movement shows particular prowess more than others to take things to the Next Required Level.

:idea: If I could show you a way to take this momentum and turn it into something that can be particularly profitable for you and your families and the families of others would you watch a short video? :arrow: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eibFwbVvxB0]

You will find Annotation "Notes" on the video for those who are SERIOUS about moving forward in making a difference. Come on CHICAGO! Let's Make History TOGETHER! :!:
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