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F.O.X. Protest Events

Use this section to suggest / discuss potential proposals to present at GA. This should allow people that can't make it to many GA's to share their ideas / suggestions.

Re: F.O.X. Protest Events

Postby weheartourhive » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:25 am

Hi folks,  

Amanda here.  Here is the list of things we discussed after GA for our protest against the F.O.X. Fall Forum.  

 

1)  Movie Night – We discussed having a viewing for the Occupiers of "The One Percent" documentary on the streets (and potluck!).  

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1282156/  <– movie site

(I propose this be on Sunday, the 16th)

 

2) The Protest – We can schedule an organized protest for the event.  The main conference begins on Monday, the 17th (@11a) and continues to Wednesday afternoon.  I propose we protest all three days with a heavy afternoon march/rally on Monday. 

http://www.foxexchange.com/pub....._About.asp

 

Let's get ORGANIZED.  We need to be STRATEGIC.  Let's make this one count!!

 

In solidarity,

Amanda

 

(PS – This was also interesting in my research:  http://www.fa-mag.com/pw-mag/p.....sider.html
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Postby Billy » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:43 am

     for those who were not at the GA to get you up to speed. Karma is a strange mistress and the Gods have smiled upon us. The 1% have been delivered unto us. The actual 1% the trust fund babies from the movie the 1% are attending a convention right where our HQ is.

 

     I asked fate for a sign not a baseball bat to the head WTF?
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Postby weheartourhive » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:05 pm

This is what I have been working on... In the spirit of transparency, I'm sharing it all with you.  I will be at the Occupation this afternoon at 4:30 (maybe earlier) to continue working on the protest organization... I can not do this alone.  Please help.  I welcome feedback, but mostly in person!  We want to make this count!

 

Occupy Chicago - F.O.X. Protest Needs:

Full Protest Proposal – by Amanda

 

Committees:

1) Mobilization & Canvasing (Outreach and Media should be present)

            Goals:

                        - Reach out to other Occupy movements to organize similar events

                        - Reach out to local businesses, colleges (maybe target specific student groups?), etc. to share about the event and raise awareness

                        - Provide education to bystanders observing the movement

 

2) Security & Positive Behavior Intervention (De-escalation)

{Maybe bring in folks to lead pre-protest meditation or yoga?}

            Goals:

                        - Maintain peaceful, nonviolent protest atmosphere

                        - Encourage positivity and help deescalate situations when warranted

                       -Educate participants on best ways to communicate with media and law enforcement (ACLU has good bullet points on their website for this, so does CPI)

 

3) Protest Event Organizing

            -Focus on a common theme- it’ll understandably have many facets, but try to keep some common language usage on the signs

            -put together sheets of 4-5 talking points for protesters with cited sources to back up claims.

            -assign ‘captains’ or some sort of point persons to be accountable for smaller groups of protesters (10 per captain?  20? and those 10-20 relate all issues to that point person so we can continue to use common language)

            - have clear agendas and events listed for people to know “what is going on”... anything not on the agenda is done independently of Occupy Chicago to protect all levels of protesters (yes, we have some supporters who do not want to storm buildings and handcuff themselves to people, we need to be respectful to all)

 

Common Language?

- We are protesting the Family Office Exchange Fall Forum in support of the 99%.  We know that FOX aids in the consultation and networking of large financial dynasties throughout the world.  We are against their practice of helping the already affluent, continue to grow their financial assets with no regard to the financial situations of the middle and lower class.  We call on all of the Occupy movements to support Occupy Chicago in this protest and to stand in solidarity with us during the Conference dates of October 17-19.  We also urge that those in Occupy movements and their supporters come together for a Pre-Conference Rally on Sunday, October 16th and watch The One Percent documentary in homes, churches, or any venue that will have them. We then urge people to educate themselves about the FOX company and other wealth advising agencies that help support the selfish behaviors of the 1%.  An open dialogue should occur so people can discuss their views on companies like FOX and their effect in our global economy so we can send a clear message that these businesses will not be kept in secret.  Please support us in this effort with your thoughts, your voice, or your bodies to stand united for the 99%.

  

 

Proposed Protest Agenda:

 

Sunday, October 16th:  Pre-Conference Rally - Change GA time to 6 to allow Rally at 7:30?

1)    Begin with educational speakers (30 minutes)


  1. FOX Company

  2. Common Language and the goals of the protest


2)    Watch “One Percent” documentary (8pm)


  1. Pot luck style, invite people to bring food (food and trash organizers)


3)    Open Forum on the protest, documentary, etc. (small group discussions to encourage deeper dialogue) (9:30)

4)    Pre-Conference "Silent" March – Around the Marriott… Common chants?  Common signage – 1 purpose, not a “Protest Free for All”

- Like sharks swimming for their prey...  Cool

 

Monday, October 17th:  Conference Protest/Rally

1)    March @ 12p

2)    GA @ 3pm

3)    Conference Rally @ 5:30p


  1. 30 minutes of speakers, activities, etc?

    1.                                                   i.    People can sign up to speak but should be related to topics about the conference, FOX, economic disparity, etc… Not a time to be on a personal soapbox but a way to unite the crowd and encourage others to join

    2. Downtown March against the Conference @ 6pm

    3. End march at GA @ 7pm



 

Tuesday, October 18th:  Conference Protest/Rally

            Follow normal Occupy Chicago schedule

 


  1. Downtown March against the Conference @ 6pm

  2. End march at GA @ 7pm


 

Wednesday, October 19th:  Conference Ending

1)    Buffett lunch at 11:30 at conference….  Rally and march at 12pm around the conference center? - Again using common language?

 Can we create some sort of 3 question survey to gauge effectiveness and organization to help us get better?

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Postby arthurdent6 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:22 pm

I think if you want to get it passed, I would suggest that you focus on what you want to accomplish (in general terms), how you want to accomplish it (again in general terms), and why OC should do it as an organization (i.e. because what you want to accomplish is perfectly in line with our goals, and how you want to accomplish it is perfectly in line with our values).  
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:15 am

I just watched the GA on video. This is my personal opinion and does not represent the group. Someone with 100 million dollars laying around to invest is almost certainly the top 1%. From wikipedia in 2006 1.93% all households had and annual income exceeding $250K.

 

     When you think about somone that has 100s of millions and what has to happen to attain that kind of wealth. How many children were forced into slavery to make that happen? How many of the earth's resources that belong to all of us had to be allocated just to that person or family? How can you justify such abuse?

 

     Wall street has done some terrible things. Our government has been caught trafficking drugs during Iran-Contra. The UN was recently caught being involved in human trafficking and sex slavery. Our government is currently responsible for the deaths of millions of people in the past 10 years alone for the sake of obtaining wealth from oil that happens to exist under the ground that someone else lives on. We support brutal regimes like those in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain again in the name of profit over people.

 

     I'm not sure what people think they are working towards. If you are in this group because you're pissed that you are not one of the 1% and want to be so then you are in the wrong group as far as our slogans and stated goals are concerned we stand against those people and what prices have had to be burdened by the rest of the world to support such exorbitant wealth.

 

     There is no pretty way around this. If you have money invested in Wall Street (NYSE) then you are guilty of funding and supporting: genocide, theft, slavery and countless other crimes against humanity. If you have invested, made money from or earned interest from any of the big banks or used credit cards from or otherwise patronized any of the big banks you are guilty of supporting war crimes.

 

     I myself have done all of these things so I am not pointing the finger outward. I also believe that we can live good happy healthy lives sustainably all of us everyone on the planet. But know that there is no way to obtain any wealth through investment in today's world without getting your hands dirty especially when you are talking about families with 100 million laying around to play with.

 

     If someone can show me one person or family that has ever been able to accumulate 100 million in wealth with out large portions of people being made to suffer to account for such disparity then I will eat my words. I'll go one better if someone can prove that in theory it is possible to make that kind of wealth without thousands if not millions of others being made to suffer then I will again eat my words and recant.

 

     We have to be real about the crimes our government commits and how we have benefited from them. If we want a horizontal worldwide movement those abuses have to stop. That does not mean we have to live like paupers. It does however mean that income disparities like what we see now will have to go. I am remembering these numbers off of the top of my head but I think we use something along the lines of over 25% or the world's resources and are less than 5% of the population.
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Postby SavageButtonGuy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:00 am

Any sort of exclusive club that is intended on getting the super rich together to figure out ways to become even richer and maximize profit in these times, is reason enough to be protested.

They obviously only think about themselves. That's my view on the members who join F.O.X.

Now, take a look at the keynote speaker of the event. 

Mister Richard N. Haass,

President of the Council on Foreign Relations.

"THE MAN" himself! If you do not know what the Council on Foreign Relations are, they are basically are the guys running the show behind the curtain. Some would say that they are at the heart of the New World Order.
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Postby jdrtimm » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:26 am

I support this idea. Rather than focusing too specifically on F.O.X., though, I think the potential effectiveness of this demonstration lies in what it illustrates and demands. It illustrates a bunch of multimillionaires convening to increase their wealth while a mass of lower class people demand that those millionaires distribute their resources to the sick, overworked, and hungry.

 

So we don't need to object specifically to F.O.X. the organization, but just the individuals attending, who have more than enough money to go around and would rather not look in the eyes the people who are in need. At this stage in the movement, I think that forcing the 1% to authentically see us and begin to acknowledge their responsibility for the suffering of the majority is a good general tactic. 
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Postby lindsey » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:58 am

I do not support an organized protest against F.O.X. Yes, this is a firm that consults wealthy families on how to manage their money and who knows what goes on behind these closed doors, but the Occupy movement is not protesting these families and their wealth. We are protesting corporations and big banks influence on our government and policy making.

 

Last night at GA, a stack speaker made a great point. There are successful people in this world who made money through handwork and creativity. Just because they are extremely wealthy does not mean that they are apart of the Wall Street Corruption. YES THERE PROBABLY ARE PEOPLE INVOLVED WHO ARE, but I couldn't find any articles naming specifics. If anyone on this forum has supporting documents, please share.

 

I DO support a movement against the CFR and it's president, but this isn't their conference.

 

We need to be transparent with our voice and we need to focus. We cannot just protest an entire event because there are a few attendants that are the corrupt 1 %. That leaves too much room for speculation and confusion in the occupy community, the media, and the closely watching world.
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Postby SavageButtonGuy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:45 am

It is true that we really do not know who these members are at these meeting, but we can be assured that there are people there that need to know of our presence. If Richard N. Haass is the keynote speaker, we should assume he is held in high regards and is influential to these people.

I would suggest marching by the location and making a stop there. I would suggest we refrain from using any of the "Tax the Rich" chants if we really don't want to directly attack all rich people. I would suggest something along the lines of "Reinvest in America". I believe this may even influence some of the FOX members to so. Assuming there are any of them with beating hearts in their chests.
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Postby Billy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:56 am

     From the comments it seems a lot of people are confused about what the 1% are and how they operate and how they got to where they are. I'm not sure if this is the same movie I saw several years ago or not but I saw a documentary from one of the Johnson and Johnson heirs.

 

     These people have disdain for people like us they openly discuss it in the documentary that I saw. None of these people have ever done anything to earn any of the wealth that they have. These are trust-fund babies. Their fathers inherited their wealth as did their grandfathers. They get wealthier and wealthier by purposefully and intentionally manipulating the markets of the world with their wealth and stealing money from the hard working people of the world. These people are the creators, perpetuaters and main benefactors of the corrupt system we live under which includes the Wall street markets that the NYC occupation is named after.

 

     If you think that by protesting these people you can wake them up I think it's unlikely the only thing that can be accomplished is to show them that we know who they are and secrecy is no longer on their side. Sympathizing with us and getting them to realize the "error" in their ways will most likely not happen. These people have been handed everything their whole lives they can not relate to us. They only date and breed within their own ranks. They do not associate with us. We are like farm animals to them.

 

     If you think that there is a way to accumulate 100s of millions or billions of dollars worth of wealth without some type of abuse of others I think you are delusional. Think of how many lifetimes the average person would need to work to earn that much money and please give me even in theory anything that one person could have done in their lifetime to justify that extreme in balance of the product or fruits of this earth and of others' labor that are represented by billions of dollars.

 

     Blaming the corporations for the corrupt system that we have and ignoring the people who's great-grandfather's created it and who currently up hold and benefit from it and ignoring their quarterly meeting where they plot against the 99% I think is akin to blaming the gun for the murder.

 

     If you think that people should be allowed to accumulate the great imbalance of resources that is represented by billions of dollars in wealth I suggest that you do not support this movement. That you do not support the idea of a horizontal structure in which all people are created equal. I suggest that you support abuse and slavery and are just jealous that you are not the 1%. That you do not want to see the movement succeed because it would mean the end  to the kind of elitism that you aspire to and are of the delusion that you could possibly become one of these people.

 

     I can agree with anyone that would say focusing on the past is not fruitful and we should focus on moving forward. I would actually suggest that. I however strongly disagree with anyone that thinks there is a way to become the 1% without serious and extreme abuse of others.
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