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by occupyguy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:08 pm
Hey, if you want to learn more about Corporations and law in general, the biggest law library in the city that is open to the public is in the top floor of the Daley Center at Washington and Clark, right by the Picasso. It is only a 5 minute walk from LaSalle and Jackson plus it is free admission:) The librarians are helpful too!!
Knowledge is power!!!
Knowledge is power!!!
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by Chopin » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:48 pm
My only qualm with your qualms with #1 is that those rights should be granted by federal law instead of Amendments 1-10 & 14.
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by Chopin » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:07 pm
What about "Corporations and other institutions chartered under the laws of the United States, the several States, or any foreign state are not granted any rights, exemptions, or entitlements beyond those exercised by their members in their individual capacities, and shall be subordinate to all laws of the United States or any of the several States wherein they conduct business"?
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by Chopin » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:09 pm
Or make it less wordy:
Corporations and other institutions chartered under the laws of any state, domestic or foreign, are not granted any rights, exemptions, or entitlements beyond those exercised by their members in their individual capacities; and shall be subordinate to all laws of the applicable governing bodies.
Corporations and other institutions chartered under the laws of any state, domestic or foreign, are not granted any rights, exemptions, or entitlements beyond those exercised by their members in their individual capacities; and shall be subordinate to all laws of the applicable governing bodies.
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by Chopin » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:08 pm
See #1:
http://politics.salon.com/2011.....singleton/
1. Ratify an amendment: Corporations are not persons
The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, gave blacks the constitutional right of citizenship: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall … deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
In 1886, in a case that had nothing to do with corporate personhood, the court clerk wrote a headnote to the case that contained these fateful sentences, “The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.”
Some 65 years later Justice William O. Douglas observed that “the Santa Clara case becomes one of the most momentous of all our decisions. Corporations were now armed with constitutional prerogatives.” They made the most of these new prerogatives. The 14th Amendment, written to protect largely defenseless ex-slaves, was used mostly to protect powerful corporations. Of the 150 cases based on the 14th amendment heard by the Supreme Court between 1886 and 1896, 15 involved blacks while 135 involved business entities.
In the next 20 years, relying on the 1886 “precedent,” the Supreme Court steadily expanded the number of constitutional rights accorded to this new type of person: in 1893 the 5th Amendment right of due process; in 1906 the 4th Amendment protection against search and seizure; in 1908 the 6th Amendment right to a trial by jury. By the 1940s Justice Felix Frankfurter declared, “Artificial or not, corporations have won more rights under law than people have — rights which government has protected with armed force.”
In early 2010 the Supreme Court gave corporations the right, as persons, to spend unlimited amounts of money to influence elections.
A wonderful sign at the Occupy Wall Street protest reads, “I won’t believe corporations are people until Texas executes one.”
We need a constitutional amendment consisting of four words: Corporations are not persons.
http://politics.salon.com/2011.....singleton/
1. Ratify an amendment: Corporations are not persons
The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, gave blacks the constitutional right of citizenship: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall … deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
In 1886, in a case that had nothing to do with corporate personhood, the court clerk wrote a headnote to the case that contained these fateful sentences, “The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.”
Some 65 years later Justice William O. Douglas observed that “the Santa Clara case becomes one of the most momentous of all our decisions. Corporations were now armed with constitutional prerogatives.” They made the most of these new prerogatives. The 14th Amendment, written to protect largely defenseless ex-slaves, was used mostly to protect powerful corporations. Of the 150 cases based on the 14th amendment heard by the Supreme Court between 1886 and 1896, 15 involved blacks while 135 involved business entities.
In the next 20 years, relying on the 1886 “precedent,” the Supreme Court steadily expanded the number of constitutional rights accorded to this new type of person: in 1893 the 5th Amendment right of due process; in 1906 the 4th Amendment protection against search and seizure; in 1908 the 6th Amendment right to a trial by jury. By the 1940s Justice Felix Frankfurter declared, “Artificial or not, corporations have won more rights under law than people have — rights which government has protected with armed force.”
In early 2010 the Supreme Court gave corporations the right, as persons, to spend unlimited amounts of money to influence elections.
A wonderful sign at the Occupy Wall Street protest reads, “I won’t believe corporations are people until Texas executes one.”
We need a constitutional amendment consisting of four words: Corporations are not persons.
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by Chopin » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:56 am
Trending @ #7:
http://current.com/community/9.....hicago.htm
http://current.com/community/9.....hicago.htm
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by occupied » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:25 pm
"Separation of Corporation and State". It's catchy and it captures the scope of change that is needed. All corporate involvement in politics should be banned (business owners can still contact their representatives as citizens). There also need to be significant restrictions on people moving back and forth between government and industry. We can't ban corporate money in politics without an amendment because the Supreme Court decided that is a violation of free speech...which is nonsense but that's what they did.
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by Chopin » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:11 pm
That's what I want as well. How long does this have to be up before someone who thinks they are in charge decides to add it to the agenda at general assembly? Anytime I've come up there and asked I've been blown off.
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by Chopin » Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:11 am
How many WEEKS does this have to be up in order for the "committees" to allow me to propose this?
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